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Old 08-05-2011, 12:07 AM   #1
 
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It's stupid... Just get rid of E85 completly and lower the gas to $2.00 a gallon and the oil companies will still be making more then enough


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Back in the 60's and 70's you had cars that would get 30MPG easy...take the computers out of cars...and build them like they were built back then...
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Old 08-05-2011, 05:25 AM   #3
 
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That's why I'm going to start putting in Shell 89 octane in mine. I know it's a little more expensive but it's worth it if I don't have to worry about my motor getting screwed up because of it.
Some of the shell stations around here have a certain percent of ethanol in 87, 89, and 93

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There are still places around here where you can purchase ethanol free gasoline...my uncle boats up to a marina in Hudson that sells it, but like most marina fuels you do pay a premium for it.

And yes, unleaded gasoline is federally mandated to have up to 10% ethanol blended into it. The EPA wants to soon push it to 15%, once they prove it will benefit the cause.

My thought on ethanol fuel is this...and I do not ask anybody to agree with me, it is simply my opinion. The whole ethanol deal is all about reducing our foreign dependancy on crude oil...but at what cost? We dont live in the 60's anymore where there are vast areas of farm land to be had to grow an ample amount of corn to provide for our country in the long term. Corn prices, especially corn for feed are extremely high already, so I believe that in someways, the demand for corn has already affected farmers in the cattle industry...it has for years...to the point where they are already growing their own corn for silage, simply to reduce operating costs...and the US has not even tipped the edge of where they want ethanol based fuels to be.

I fear that it will get to the point that if the US Government were to mandate ethanol fuels to where they really want it, we will simply be giving up our foreign dependancy on crude and gaining a foreign dependancy for corn, to produce fuel with and we would have to start importing corn from overseas to make up for what we need.

I have read where the price for feed corn could rise nearly $0.63 per pushel by the year 2014, due to the demand for ethanol based fuels.
Exactly. We're just gonna keep running into more and more problems. Drill baby drill!...in America

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It's stupid... Just get rid of E85 completly and lower the gas to $2.00 a gallon and the oil companies will still be making more then enough
They could but they always want more. Compare it to cars, is 400 hp enough for a street car? In most cases yes. But people still want 700+ hp street beasts

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Back in the 60's and 70's you had cars that would get 30MPG easy...take the computers out of cars...and build them like they were built back then...
Yupp, just wasn't advertised as much

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wait a sec... I always thought fuel-injected was more economical than carborated
Depends on the application and the tuning of the carb


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its all government control and there is nothing anyone can do about it. What ever big oil wants they get and how good government will line their pockets. So it will never change LOL

I lost all faith in the US government from the top down. Its a joke just like the stock market is too.


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The Shell I fill up at says 100% fuel... Don't tell me they're lying about that now


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I been investigating a bit more and for me to make the change to E85 would take about 900 bucks'. Thats including buying fuel.


PC got a taste of what a beast this whore is yesterday. I half throttled it and kicked it sideways down MLK. Im thinking on what I have now, with cooler outside temp's, I can bang out 500whp on E85. I mean, i'm not really too far off now.
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I hate it...ethanol that is. Only reason why my motorcycle, scooter and RV generator are screwed up right now. Of course, I didn't learn about the residue ethanol leaves behind when it sits until after they were acting up. I've also heard it deteriorates fuel lines too.
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I hate it...ethanol that is. Only reason why my motorcycle, scooter and RV generator are screwed up right now. Of course, I didn't learn about the residue ethanol leaves behind when it sits until after they were acting up. I've also heard it deteriorates fuel lines too.
Yup thats why you have probably seen gas stations all getting new tanks over the last few years. The government told em they had to get ready for the ethanol mix by 2010, and they needed new tanks just to hold the 10% mix they sell today.


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