spindles or control arms

[tuned93]

im looking at getting some drop spindles or control arms temporarily till i bag my truck. im in iraq now, as some of you know, and im gonna buy my first house when i get back so i wont be able to purchase a full bag kit right away. depending on whats left over after the house, fees, furnishing, ect. is how much i have to play with. i already have to buy a new set of tires cuz the truck has been sitting this whole time. so they have flat spots. i would like to get 3'' of drop up front so my question is... does anyone make a 3'' drop spindle or set of control arms that will keep the stock streering geometry? keep in mind im also on a budget.

[tuned93]

or i just had a thought... i already have a 2/4.5 drop on now, coils up front, but i never got an allignment after i dropped it. new question is... WITH the drop springs, couldnt i just get an allignment and correct the camber back to stock to spare my new tires?

[BAD HABIT]

im sure you can get an alignment to correct anything out of whack, your drop isnt so extreme, that you cant do an alignment. glad to see you postin up, stay safe cant wait til your back home....

[Fla 66 cuda]

Jays correct, me personally i would go with drop lower control arms with bags deflated you will be lower than now but if you have a falure you can still drive it.If you want to lay frame go with both spindles and arms but you'll have to c notch the rear frame.

[OklaHemi]

3" drop arms (http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/DJM-CA2392L3)


well if it isnt my favorite ram with racing stripes. i was just think about you last night ken, its nice to know you are safe and still thinking of modding your truck. when you buy the house see if they have the first time home buyers credit its like 6-7k that you dont have to pay back. get home man

[tuned93]

good to finally get to talk to my homies again. yeah i figured id just get an allignment then when the house thing is done, dive into bagging the truck. fyi ill be home in 2.5 months! yippee!

[OklaHemi]

If you look at th bottom of that linked page they have a 3/5 drop for 599 the lower arms ar like 400 alone

[AParrette]

good to finally get to talk to my homies again. yeah i figured id just get an allignment then when the house thing is done, dive into bagging the truck. fyi ill be home in 2.5 months! yippee!

fuck yes
means we'll be bagging in 4 right

[SmokedRam]

I would just get the LCA's...that will save you from having to pie cut or shave your stock ones later one...I dont know much about bagging Dodges, but you might not even be able to lay frame on a stock LCA

[tuned93]

fuck yes
means we'll be bagging in 4 right

hopefully! im trying not to spend alot of money where not needed. id hate to buy a brand new set of LCA's to get 3'' of drop with a coil, then turn around and get a set with buckets for bagging. i think im just gonna get an alignment for now... hopefully that preserves my tires till the caos begins! btw when im bagging in going all out.. channelling, notching, shaving, MAYBE a body drop while im at it. that would be awesome!

[OklaHemi]

Hell yeah it would be. Ken you did remove your front bump stops right

[tuned93]

nah, i never got around to it. once i finally decided to do it i got sent here :pp: but when i get home i will have some down time to get that done.

[Stealth Mode]

Why would you want to remove the bump stop's...? I have a 6" drop and have Energy Suspension 3" poly bump stop's.

[tuned93]

you get a little more suspension travel without the factory bumpstops. i still have mine in and rarely bottom out, but on occasion i do. with them removed i wouldnt bottom out at all. up front to be specific

[Stealth Mode]

You may bottom out on them, but I prefer to bottom out on poly/rubber vs hard steel. See what I mean?

[SmokedRam]

on those damned S10's anything over 4 inches in the rear requires removing bumpstops...doesnt feel good having your axle slapping your bumpstops in the rear...

[tuned93]

You may bottom out on them, but I prefer to bottom out on poly/rubber vs hard steel. See what I mean?

i know what you mean, im very cautious though. im gonna cut em out when i get home from this deployment.

[tuned93]

did some digging and i found these.... what do you think?
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/DJM-CA2392L2
they also have 3'' drop arms too...
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/DJM-CA2392L3

[BAD HABIT]

shoooooooweeee priceeeee, ouch, but gotta pay to play....

[tuned93]

yeah, they're a bit pricey... but i think im good on fundage for a lil bit ;)

[Stealth Mode]

I like the 3" drop control arm's. You're paying $360 for em' anyway. Set it on the ground WITHOUT bag's!

[BAD HABIT]

yeah, they're a bit pricey... but i think im good on fundage for a lil bit ;)

i know you are, you planning on laying it out static now, i mean you'll have to drop the back after too, let me in on these plans...

[OklaHemi]

alright first thing remove the front bump stops and remove the steel cups. i have to use a a grinder and a sir chisle. it took little time and my HOA loved me and my neighbor doing this at 1030 at night. you can get some trimmable bumpstops at advance for chep and cut them to 1 5/8s. i rode around for a long time with out bumpstops and never "botommed out" but i did destroy my wheel liners. if you dont remove or replace the bumpstops your truck may be riding on the frame causing the wheel to be on angel, mine was. i wore out the inside of my front tires in a matter of months.

[Redtruck-VA]

With your spring drop I would suspect you are sitting on your front OEM bumps already. I recommend removing the OEM cups even on a stock height 2wd, The OEM suspension just doesn't have any travel. Without bumps you may rub the inner fender liner on full compression. I use a polyurethane cut to 1-5/8". Apparently I can't post pictures so I can't show you my setup. To get the alignment done use adjusters, you will need to two kits. If you want to bag it then I would focus on doing that and not get distracted with doing another drop. Fully lay'd out will require extensive frame fabrication both front and rear. Good luck and post pictures if you can..

[OklaHemi]

see greg knows his shit

[Redtruck-VA]

see greg knows his shit

Not really, but I've massaged mine so much it has stuck with me. Takes time to work out all the little bugs at each level. One of the reasons I hate dropping again. But will probably go another inch. Been working on an idea using Aeon spring to replace the rear bumps. If these work it may eliminate the need to notch when using a full 4-1/2" drop. Plus helper bags won't be needed to tow. I'll post up later on how it goes.

[OklaHemi]

like these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Timbren-Load-Booster-Snow-Plow-Rubber-Spring-Aeon-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ede5988c5QQitemZ27001 8382021QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

i saw something similair but a different brand. i think they are awesome

[Redtruck-VA]

like these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Timbren-Load-Booster-Snow-Plow-Rubber-Spring-Aeon-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ede5988c5QQitemZ27001 8382021QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

i saw something similair but a different brand. i think they are awesome

That's the manufacturer. They make all different sizes, the ones I looked at are A155-65 rated at 660 pounds, with a compressed height of 7/8". This would increase load by 1320 pounds and not raise the static height. I have 1 inch bumps on it now so these are actually shorter under full compression. Don'y need air or anything as these a completely passive.
http://www.timbren.com/aeon-single-convolution-springs.htm

[BAD HABIT]

greg you will be able to post pics soon, its just the site probating your account so we know your not spamming, or you can use photobucket...
ken go all out, then ill take the drop from you...:)

[Redtruck-VA]

Jay, I can post pictures now, thanks

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6803/dsc00450web.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/dsc00450web.jpg/)

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7066/dsc00257web.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/i/dsc00257web.jpg/)

2/4 drop...

[tuned93]

yeah dude, i plan on runnin these drop control arms up front for a 3'' drop, and out back takin out the overload leaf and puttin in helper bags. which will prolly put me at 5-5.5'' out back. and i might have to get a mild bolt on c-notch for clearence. this is just temporary till i bag the whole truck cuz i wanna do it all at once. prolly take a week out and do everything from start to finish. as promised my current drop is all yours when i finally get this project going. im really shooting for soon though. still have a few things to take care of as soon as i get home... but, hopefully the wife lets me do it. (you know how that is lol)

[BAD HABIT]

oh DO i know how that is...are you gonna put stock springs back in when you get the c-arms? removing your overload on a flip will do nothing, you need stock shackles to get you lower with your current kit, or blocks between your leafs and axle...and if you do stock shackles all i really need are your springs and current shackles, ill buy new perches and i bet i can fabb the rest...pm my price too so i know what i gotta come up with...

[Redtruck-VA]

Jay,
What drop are you going for?

[Onk]

You're going the wrong way dude...jmwy

[BAD HABIT]

Greg i think i need another 2" lower all the way around just to give it more appeal...

[Redtruck-VA]

Greg i think i need another 2" lower all the way around just to give it more appeal...

Just me guessing, but 2" spindles and a 1" chop on the spring is about max for a DD drop without major mods which would include removing inner fender wells.
The bumps shown here are adjusted to keep from rubbing the inner fender well with a stock spring. If you dropped another inch you can just subtract the inch from the space shown.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6803/dsc00450web.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/132/dsc00450web.jpg/)

The rear will require a notch for anything lower than a 4-1/2" drop.
This is all the travel I have with a 4" drop.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/843/dsc00260web.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/683/dsc00260web.jpg/)

I can run at speed on back roads without rubbing with only the occasional hit in the rear. Tight shocks are a must and the Aeon spring I mentioned somewhere and it;s all golden.

[BAD HABIT]

im only dropped 2" in the back, thats 2" drop shackles and no overload leaf, remember, so i would be looking for a total of 2/4 all the way around...

[Redtruck-VA]

im only dropped 2" in the back, thats 2" drop shackles and no overload leaf, remember, so i would be looking for a total of 2/4 all the way around...

A 2/4 is what I have and is IMO a nice setup for a DD.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5998/dsc00394web.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/dsc00394web.jpg/)

[BAD HABIT]

it would be perfect, i think

[tuned93]

the website said you cant use the stock springs for the 3'' drop CA's. so im guessin id have to use the springs i have. and as for the back yeah, i forgot about blocks.. maybe i should just shoot strait for the bags, that way im not really wasting money going to a lower static drop then bagging it. its really all about convincing the wife. any suggestions? haha

[OklaHemi]

for the brief time i had a facebook she agreed that spending money on your truck is better than your bike. just an idea

[Redtruck-VA]

the website said you cant use the stock springs for the 3'' drop CA's. so im guessin id have to use the springs i have. and as for the back yeah, i forgot about blocks.. maybe i should just shoot strait for the bags, that way im not really wasting money going to a lower static drop then bagging it. its really all about convincing the wife. any suggestions? haha

As stated in post #24 keep your focus on what you really want to do and don't waste time and money on the other stuff. Know what you want and develop a plan to complete the build and then go for it.