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BAD HABIT
08-09-2011, 07:20 PM
well this will be my build thread for the next cpl months as i go through some major changes....some will just be repairs like my front wheel bearings that will be replaced with in the next cpl weeks, i have also been eyeballing a set of djm 2" drop arms for my front, they are used but in great condition, along with those the front will get new uppers as well, which will mean i got new ball joints, which are needed. i need to fabricate my flip in the rear, and buy some longer shackles, so if any of you know where i can get a good set cheap let me know...ill be welding spring perches to the rear axle and making my plates for the top of the axle....my shocks will need to be replaced when all is said and done, just dont know what to use, as my fronts should be 2" longer and my rears to right?.....any advise or ideas ?......anything im over looking?

SmokedRam
08-09-2011, 07:23 PM
Toxic drop shocks for the front?

BAD HABIT
08-09-2011, 07:27 PM
i dont know if they will fit, as im moving the spring down keep my front end geometry the same...i hear good thing about monroe....but dont know what sizes i would be looking at...

SmokedRam
08-09-2011, 07:29 PM
Ahh okay...Greg will chime in soon, he's the low down king...lol

Redtruck-VA
08-09-2011, 07:40 PM
jay, I don't know about the drop control arms. But have heard there have been problems. I do know drop spindles work nicely. And trimming the spring allows you to dial in the hieght.

BAD HABIT
08-09-2011, 07:45 PM
do tell me, why and how have they been problems?

Redtruck-VA
08-09-2011, 08:20 PM
do tell me, why and how have they been problems?

Jay, I don't have the real details. But what I remember reading on DT was there was a chamber adjustment issue, along with the tie rod ends needed to be cut. I'm thinking the control arm is shorter than the OEM arm causing the top of the tire to lean out and being shorter the tie rod ends required to be shorten to get the toe-in adjusted. There might be an advantage here if you also went with custom upper control arms that are also shorter. This would effectively move the entire wheel inboard and increase clearance with the fender lip. Research is needed to nail down the details.
Just a note: drop spindles use stock shocks and maintain stock geometry.

Redtruck-VA
08-09-2011, 08:29 PM
jay, Also I recommend the Timbren Aeon Springs for bumpers.

http://www.semopars.com/showthread.php?t=1316

tuned93
08-09-2011, 08:50 PM
here's my rear flip. its a djm kit. if you look at it pretty carefully im sure you can build one at home... as for the front i just used drop springs and slid out my upper control arm to correct the camber.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/tuned93/truckpics055.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/tuned93/truckpics056.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/tuned93/truckpics057.jpg

BAD HABIT
08-09-2011, 08:53 PM
Yeah I have been searching for some real good rnr with these things and its hit or miss with what some people try, there's good and there's bad I guess as with everything, I'm not sold on them yet, I just cant justify spindles....this has been along time plan to just use a spring kit, then I got hooked on these cause of the theory...

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BAD HABIT
08-09-2011, 08:55 PM
Ken did you use shock extenders on your shocks?
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tuned93
08-09-2011, 08:59 PM
i thought about drop control arms too, i would love to get spindles, but i cant afford them. my dad got spindles on his ram and he loves em. but driving both our trucks there's no difference in handling between springs and spindles. as for my springs i just adjusted my upper control arms and it doesnt camber much if at all.. its been like 5 months and my tires arnt even beginning to feather. if its just a 2'' drop up front then i think springs will do just fine cuz you can compensate with an alignment. anything more and you will have camber because an allignment cant compinsate.
i used Nitro 2 drop shocks with the factory shock mounts.

Redtruck-VA
08-09-2011, 09:22 PM
The DJM flip kit looks much stronger than the Mcgaughy flip kit. Either way I would still spot weld the spring perch. You could also use spring perches from a trailer supply store, mount everything in place and again spot weld the perches and it should be strong. I'd remove the O/L spring and install CalTracs to keep everything in alignment to keep from breaking drive shafts and avoid excessive spring wrap.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5481/dsc00223web.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/dsc00223web.jpg/)

BAD HABIT
09-13-2011, 08:04 PM
i dont know where this is really going now, but i did order this bundle of parts, i have ordered this type of stuff from these guys before and it was great quality, another member just bought some stuff from here too, so hopefully its getting my suspension stuff right again, next order is wheel bearings gotta wait for next pay day, then ill do a major operation on the ole gal, after that i gotta see where im headed as i need shocks too....stay tuned.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130512256448

SmokedRam
09-13-2011, 08:18 PM
sweet...after doing all my ball joints and front shocks, the truck handles like a brand new one!!!

BAD HABIT
09-13-2011, 08:21 PM
ill bet, i know when i did this stuff on my 99 i was in love but i went with energy suspension on all my bushings and they were a lil stiff, down the road i may go with them again...

ramn it
09-13-2011, 08:32 PM
Jay I bought EIBACH 4 in drop leafs for the back and 2in drop springs in the front so everything stayed pretty much stock and I used the factory shocks for a while until I could afford the drop shocks.
SOOOOOOOO does this mean your havin a jays garage GTG?? I will bring the beer

BAD HABIT
09-13-2011, 09:12 PM
sure we call it Jays mopar mod shop...right now its repair whats bad, then mod the heighth

RamSport97
09-13-2011, 10:58 PM
I'm excited, to see it finished!

BAD HABIT
09-14-2011, 07:56 PM
Prolly never be finished, I just wanna get new wheels on it and the drop that'll make me super happy
To get that far
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BAD HABIT
09-15-2011, 05:31 PM
Got my first order today, ordered Tuesday night, world suspension is in ft lauderdale, so 2 days is badass, next up front wheel bearings...

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SmokedRam
09-15-2011, 06:16 PM
If you need tubes of grease let me know....we have them...and grease guns too!!!

Silverbullet08
09-15-2011, 06:40 PM
Ur going to need some black 22" kmc slides :)

BAD HABIT
09-15-2011, 09:15 PM
I'll take a gun and a tube or 2, ill be using my 6 qts of elixer too Saturday...:) I hope to have this done by the wiregrass show, nick no slides, waiting on the new wheels to come out at sema, and then a guy I met can get exclusives so I might be getting something super new

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SmokedRam
09-15-2011, 09:19 PM
Alright...I will snag ya some of our Elixir EP#2 Full Synthetic grease.

BAD HABIT
10-16-2011, 07:46 PM
Okay finally, I got my ball joints changed out today, and my sway bar links. Still have my inner and outer tie rods changed out, but all in all its riding good, wheel bearing on ds is still going but not as bad as I though it was, so I can buy some time on them, also a set of shocks is neeeeeeded bad... But it doing well all in due time it'll be all good....

4XLGator
10-16-2011, 07:48 PM
^ nice

BAD HABIT
02-01-2012, 07:56 AM
Update, ordered 4 new KYB GR2 shocks lastnight, and will be finally ordering my wheel bearings tonight. As soon as they arrive they will be installed. This is way over due and normally not my style to let things like the wheel bearings go for so long but things happen...

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Onk
02-01-2012, 11:48 AM
Hey our trucks are going through suspension operations about the same time.

I am currently in the process of having custom adjustable upper control arms made, to accommodate another 2.5 inches of lift....and new shocks and new 5" blocks in the rear...lol

4XLGator
02-01-2012, 09:24 PM
^ 5" blocks? Why so much?

Onk
02-01-2012, 09:57 PM
^ Cause its only got 4 inch blocks now, so with the 5 inch ones it will only be 1.5 inches lower than the front

BAD HABIT
02-01-2012, 10:02 PM
Wheel bearings ordered...next up tires...

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Preston2291
02-01-2012, 10:06 PM
Wheel bearings ordered...next up tires...

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are you gonna get the same 1
Ones that I have Jay?

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BAD HABIT
02-02-2012, 01:00 PM
I'm not sure yet

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BAD HABIT
02-08-2012, 09:12 PM
Got my wheel bearings delivered, 3 out of four shocks, the one will be here tomorrow I hope, thanks UPS for screwing up my delivery...

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OklaHemi
02-08-2012, 11:13 PM
progress jay... great.

BAD HABIT
02-09-2012, 09:59 PM
now i can thank amazon for screwing up and shipping me 3 black shocks and 1 silver, now i gotta wait for a replacement or paint it....atleast i can put my new wheel bearings and 2 front black shocks on....

BAD HABIT
02-11-2012, 09:28 PM
Done, this morning I changed out all 4 shocks, KYB Excel Gs, that's what replaced the G2 had to paint the silver one black but oh well. Changed out my wheel bearings for some new ones. And wow does she ride like new now, just in time for some new rubber and it'll be like new.

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AWE Daniel
02-11-2012, 10:49 PM
Sweet!

BAD HABIT
02-12-2012, 10:31 AM
Sweet is the way it feels to drive now. I know I procrastinated on the bearings but that's my own fault, comense ass kicking. I'll never wait to do a repair again.

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4XLGator
02-12-2012, 12:52 PM
Nice!

ramn it
02-12-2012, 08:19 PM
Niiiiiccccceeeee!!

LB3711
02-12-2012, 08:31 PM
nice. pics lol

BAD HABIT
02-12-2012, 09:14 PM
Sorry no pics, I guess I could crawl under and take pics of the shocks, they are just black tho...lol

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BAD HABIT
07-20-2012, 12:05 PM
Kinda forgot about this thread....I figured is dig it up and update it come the beginning of the week.......

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BAD HABIT
07-22-2012, 02:41 PM
McGaughys 2/4.5 drop is completed check that off my list, this thread can officially be completed. Now just gotta finish up something else......

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ramn it
07-22-2012, 02:43 PM
WOW!!!!!!! jay your truck is sittin right !! really looks sweeeeeet!!

AWE Daniel
07-22-2012, 02:59 PM
Nice!


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SmokedRam
07-22-2012, 03:28 PM
Sweet!

Fla 66 cuda
07-22-2012, 05:13 PM
Looks great Jay just the right stance for a daily driver while still looking sick!!!!

4XLGator
07-22-2012, 06:41 PM
Looks great, Jay! Much better than it's previous height with the look of your truck.

BAD HABIT
07-22-2012, 06:49 PM
Suits its look 100x better...thanks everyone I love it...

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NJHemiGirl
07-24-2012, 08:18 AM
Looks great Jay just the right stance for a daily driver while still looking sick!!!!

I have to agree!

Looks awesome.